Jeepin.com Forums

Jeepin.com Forums (https://www.jeepin.com/forum/index.php)
-   Tow Rig Talk (https://www.jeepin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=5)
-   -   Project: PolarRAM (https://www.jeepin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=581)

Cobound 04-26-2022 07:51 PM

Yeah, we got beat down to and from this trip - drove for hours turned left just to go straight. My cruise actually shut down once because the system though my steering was jacked :lol:

That said, that’s on 37s with stock gears, too!

I’m in love with this thing!

6DoF 04-27-2022 06:58 AM

i've also been burning like 2 gallons of used oil in this truck every tank. filtered before going in, and makes my trash worth $5.50 a gallon!

xj_man_646 04-27-2022 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6DoF (Post 77938)
i've also been burning like 2 gallons of used oil in this truck every tank. filtered before going in, and makes my trash worth $5.50 a gallon!

That is the good thing about those old ones...you can get away with that stuff. I think you can even do a higher oil : diesel ratio if you wanted.

6DoF 04-27-2022 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xj_man_646 (Post 77942)
That is the good thing about those old ones...you can get away with that stuff. I think you can even do a higher oil : diesel ratio if you wanted.

i've read about guys running 60:40! i don't need to go that crazy, it does smoke more. but after realizing i had over $100 in fuel sitting under my sand blaster i decided to get a filter setup and just get it all out of my way! i'll probably use it slower once i bust thru this pile of jugs so i can keep the lubricity up for every tank and not just after i change oil.

so i got a fryer oil filter set-up, 10" cone filter in a wire support. the support legs sit perfectly on a 5gal bucket, so i just filter into that and use a bucket pump into the truck. i just 3D printed a filter separator as well, so i can filter thru 2 at the same time. i'm only pouring oil that has had time to settle too, so chunks and flecks to the jug bottom. once i see anything chunky or metallic swirl i stop and leave the last 5% of the oil in the jug to throw away.

the oil goes thru the filters slow enough with gravity that it really does a great job cleaning it. the buckets is clean enough that i have no concern over fuel filter clogs at all. the 2nd filter only helped that too. you can see exactly where i pour the oil in cuz it'll be darker from carbon/stuff settling out right there on the filter. the tip will be a little metallic from tiny flecks, but the 2nd filter won't really show anything. takes a modest pour to fill the cone and get enough thru to finally empty a gallon jug, then you just let it sit there for a few minutes to finish.

https://i.imgur.com/Qz2gyks.jpg

Cobound 04-27-2022 11:42 AM

:eek:

Yeah, I'm not doing that - bonus to you :lol:

6DoF 04-28-2022 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobound (Post 77950)
:eek:

Yeah, I'm not doing that - bonus to you :lol:

old tech FTW! no way i'd run it in that new fandangled jaz


Quote:

Originally Posted by wrath (Post 77955)
Where did you find the filters and cone at affordably? I've been using furnace filter material to filter my waste oil.

We hardly drive anymore so we don't generate the oil like we used to. I used to go through a drum of Mobil1 every year, now I don't even buy drums anymore.

Amazon!

50pk filters:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0018OZF...roduct_details

filter holder:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00C67J2...roduct_details

and i can send ya the separator .stl if interested

6DoF 04-28-2022 07:32 AM

so the other day i filtered out a bunch of oil and in the process i put like 2gal in the truck and re-filled the bucket. well i never went to top off the other 20gal of fuel in the tank and was running around on like 20+% used. that did smoke more for sure, and cold starts got slow or wouldn't catch first crank. i'm going to stick to my 10%

xj_man_646 04-28-2022 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobound (Post 77950)
:eek:

Yeah, I'm not doing that - bonus to you :lol:

You definitely wouldn't want to. Your (truthfully, anything newer) diesel is picky.

6DoF 04-28-2022 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xj_man_646 (Post 77960)
You definitely wouldn't want to. Your (truthfully, anything newer) diesel is picky.

when I TDI swap this XJ, i'm throwing a mechanical VE pump conversion on it to keep with the old pump theme.

Cobound 04-28-2022 10:01 AM

Yeah, picky indeed - that said, I definitely love the diesel. Honestly wish I had one sooner.

Sean said years ago, about the time I picked up my first truck, my '13 Ram, that once you had a truck you'll never go back. He was right - went from the Ram to a Gladiator and haven't looked back!!

I'm not sure I could go back to gas now either!! Even w/ all the new doo dads, I'm happy w/ it. I'm keeping it simple, it works - and w/ the Banks stuff, plug n play, even peppier :p

Excited to get out and tow more w/ it, have a trip May 20 w/ my Escapade, Memorial weekend (Shakk) and June (VA) w/ the SXS. See what it does w/o all the headwind :rock:

Baby peez 04-28-2022 12:12 PM

Nice idea for the spacer

nblehm 04-28-2022 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobound (Post 77964)

I'm not sure I could go back to gas now either!!

wait til you get a repair bill :eek:

xj_man_646 04-29-2022 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nblehm (Post 77974)
wait til you get a repair bill :eek:

Maybe he will plan to swap these out as warranties expire. :dunno:

Cobound 04-29-2022 01:34 PM

Warranty - factory and extended.

Nothing is cheap these days, so whatever.

6DoF 05-02-2022 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrath (Post 77987)
Those filters work disturbingly well when you run two of them, thanks!

Being a cheap bastard, I might just go full granpappy and go back to letting oil settle, filter it, then boil it, then reuse it in my old ****.

right! i've been pretty happy and not worried to dump it in the tank. hell, i'd actually love my fuel filter to get a little build up cuz the non-adjustable electric pump is actually putting out too much PSI :roflmao:

the boil it i wouldn't have expected ... trying to get dissolved water/fuel to evaporate off? after seeing so many of the VW guys sending oil samples for analysis and going 30,000 miles in a TDI before the oil would drop below the "industry standard" ... seams pretty reasonable to run it in a tractor, etc after filtering.

6DoF 07-13-2022 12:10 PM

*post moved to correct truck build thread*

xj_man_646 07-13-2022 12:31 PM

Why is this in your Yodge thread?

6DoF 07-13-2022 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xj_man_646 (Post 79504)
Why is this in your Yodge thread?

oops ... moved

6DoF 07-14-2022 07:47 AM

on another note however ... i have been collecting Waste Motor Oil from friends, and have been getting a lot. as i got more, i started running more, and I'm up to running about 30% WMO. for my 30gal tank on the truck, i'll put in about 10gal of straight filtered WMO. it does smoke a tad more, but only where the truck is tuned heavy anyways. MPG check pending.

xj_man_646 07-15-2022 10:13 AM

That's pretty awesome. How does it feel in terms of power? About the same?

The beauty of old diesels :lol:. Trying that on a stock new truck would not end well.

6DoF 07-15-2022 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xj_man_646 (Post 79562)
That's pretty awesome. How does it feel in terms of power? About the same?

The beauty of old diesels :lol:. Trying that on a stock new truck would not end well.

RIGHT! i would never do this to a common rail!

it's hard to say for sure exactly how it feels for power because i changed the tune so many times trying to find a sweet spot between smoke and power. with the VE that's a LOT less power lol. even thinking about it, i wouldn't say i noticed any difference in power. the MPG should tell the tale though.

6DoF 09-19-2022 10:36 AM

i guess i'll do some catch up here ... after getting new tires, i washed the truck a week later and found that the tires had spun on the wheels! we marked em just out of curiosity. no issues, but it happened. the grease pen marks were lined up with the valve stem.

https://i.imgur.com/gJjmjXG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LSQb14s.jpg

6DoF 09-19-2022 10:40 AM

restacked the rear D80 limited slip for max friction surfaces, and even added some shims to the load washers. only did 0.0120" per side, but could have used more, it's not crazy tight yet.

https://i.imgur.com/OyxWLrt.jpg

6DoF 09-20-2022 06:04 AM

for both the 55 and Hank i got Fluidamr's, and instead of buying the $30 magnet ring for re-timing i 3d printed a template with 2deg resolution. you add a pointer to the front and align it with a mark, set the engine and pump all in factory timing, then turn the engine back a few deg before tightening down the pump gear to get more fuel advance than factory.

also for both, i decided to make my own "AFC Live" in-cab tuner for the mechanical pump. $100 in parts vs the $450 one from PDD, just no fancy box. i do however have flip-out hinges to use under the dash and will make a 3D printed mount.

https://i.imgur.com/PUPjkeX.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/TTMHhST.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/XxW5cOu.jpg?1

6DoF 09-20-2022 06:12 AM

Transmission deal ... the GETRAG is apparently having parts discontinued quickly now. my grinding after rebuild had nothing to do with the clutch, that was all really smooth. it was that the 1 and 2 steel cone for the synchro's were worn in and seated deep enough over the friction cone that they landed on the gear. once the synchro slide landed on the gear, there was zero engagement. since those slides are no longer available new, i added some custom shims under the friction cone that's pined to the gear to increase interference. based on the fit of the friction to the shift cone, i added 0.030" under one side, and 0.045" under the other. got it all back together and she's super smooth! took 20 or so clutches and shifts sitting in the driveway to get them seated and functional, but good to go.

got the Fluidamr installed and it made a huge difference in idle and free-reving, but haven't really driven it yet. my rubber was SHOT. it forced me to space the fan out though, i over did it, and on the first drive the fan eventually ate the radiator when it caught one of the top to bottom wire supports. new AL rad, new lower hose, all sealed up and better fan spacing, but not driven as i started the floor.

the floor rotted from the inside out. outside was clean, basically new undercoated metal ... the inside was DONE. cut out the junk, wire wheel, phenolic acid etch, wire brush and cleanup, sealed the outside of the patch with ChassisSaver, got the patch welded in and the inside coated in ChassisSaver, then seam seal and top coat to finally have my truck back.

https://i.imgur.com/YsktAKW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HcMtk7Q.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/spxvmBy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xahEm4g.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jl8C4P4.jpg

xj_man_646 09-20-2022 08:52 AM

More detail on your in-cab fuel pump adjuster thing please! That sounds interesting!

nblehm 09-20-2022 09:23 AM

I wish I had your motivation:lol:

6DoF 09-20-2022 09:40 AM

so the "tuner" at it's simplest is only a signal retarding device for the boost reference. generally, say, the most power is had with a smokey tune, and you don't want that most of the time ... maybe you have a clean running truck capable of stupid power and just want it to be more tame and drivable day to day ... or at the very least, it gives you a live fine tuning.

the AFC Live:
-bypass switch
-psi regulator
-orifice valve
-psi gauge

basically you tune the screws n springs in the pump for balls out MAX power. when you want that, flip the bypass switch and the pump sees a full and instant boost reference to fuel accordingly. when you want less, you run the "tune". if you have tuned pump fueling beyond max, ignore the bypass and just always run the "tune".

what it does is add a time delay and a max pressure to the boost reference. say you are making 60PSI boost, you can set this so the pump only gets 40psi max. this basically sets your max fueling to equivalent for that 40. save parts, save fuel, "valet mode", or limit smoke because you bought injectors that were too big. but lets also say you get that 60psi by 1800 R's and the throttle becomes overly touchy/violent for day to day use. you can close off the orifice valve more so even if the turbo is supplying 60psi right now, it takes a few seconds for that air to blead thru and takes the pump that much longer to react. say you have slow spooling turbo's, the orifice delay can help give the whirly mufflers time to reach speed before applying that extra fuel.

the gauge just helps you visualize the "tune" to find a setting you like again later.

6DoF 09-21-2022 07:38 AM

truck drives WAY better now. the fluidampr made way more difference than i ever thought it would. the whole thing just sounds different, cleaner, let alone running smoother. with the synchro's breaking in more and the shifter pivot screws tight again, the trans works great again. also while in there i replaced all the missing anti-rattle buttons for the SB dual-disk and was worried that would create more clutch sticking, but so far only seams to have eliminated the rattle.

passenger seat mod ... the wife complained about the seat enough that she would search FBM for me looking for junkyard newer seats for a good deal. when putting it back together i noticed there were thick washers on the seat mount from the factory, so i played with em. left the 2 on the front bolts, removed the 2 on the rear bolts (bolts aren't fully threaded, still need them under the bracket then). seat sits way better now, also a highly recommended quick change.

xj_man_646 09-21-2022 07:57 AM

Ahhh, so it is different than the device I was thinking of. I was thinking of the one that basically moves the fuel plate.

Cobound 09-21-2022 09:59 AM

JFC - your posts make my garage look like a dumping ground for projects I'll never get to and my energy level non existent :lol:

Dude, I'd drink you out of fridge supply if we were neighbors :roflmao:

:rock:

6DoF 09-21-2022 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xj_man_646 (Post 81000)
Ahhh, so it is different than the device I was thinking of. I was thinking of the one that basically moves the fuel plate.

with this set up you delete the fuel plate create virtual limits. this should also do a lot more than just create that upper limit.

6DoF 09-21-2022 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobound (Post 81004)
JFC - your posts make my garage look like a dumping ground for projects I'll never get to and my energy level non existent :lol:

Dude, I'd drink you out of fridge supply if we were neighbors :roflmao:

:rock:

https://media0.giphy.com/media/zXubY...giphy.gif&ct=g

xj_man_646 09-21-2022 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6DoF (Post 81008)
with this set up you delete the fuel plate create virtual limits. this should also do a lot more than just create that upper limit.

Very interesting. I'm still not sure I understand how it works, but it is neat :lol:

6DoF 10-07-2022 07:04 AM

holy crap ... the fluidampr is worth it! it lives up to the marketing and hype. now, my factory balancer was junk to start with, but everything is better. EVERYTHING is better. the engine idles smoother ... runs quieter at idol, at speed, on the throttle ... doesn't sounds like death revving it out when it starts to defuel ... transmission is quieter (i'd like to say shifts better, but i just rebuilt it too).

good enough that i'm pretty sure i'm going to buy one for the VW TDI too

xj_man_646 10-07-2022 11:24 AM

I would not have guessed that change. Interesting!

6DoF 10-07-2022 01:09 PM

factory rubber damper is built for a single RPM and is ok around that RPM. the factory set it somewhere where it thought was a good idea, and somewhere nowhere near where i run the engine. plus mine was dry rotted to **** and probably non-functional at any RPM.

the fluidampr is supposed to work better at the same RPM, but also work at any RPM.

6DoF 10-28-2022 07:26 AM

AAAANNNNDDDD ... it's broke ...

tried towing for the 1st time since the re-rebuilt transmission, was supposed to be going to Rausch Creek this weekend. made it 4 miles

as of hitching everything was great except it had popped out of 1st on me, just like 2nd, immediately after rebuild until it boke in. well it popped out a few times HARD with the trailer, and now i can't even hold it in gear or move the truck anywhere with it. BAM, out of gear while i'm still holding the stick IN gear. worst part of it is that now 2nd has no synchro again! WTF!?!? how did i also get instant 2nd synchro death!?! something in that 1-2 shift assembly is FUBAR.

xj_man_646 10-28-2022 07:46 AM

At least it seemed relatively simple to take apart :dunno:

That sucks. Hate when a trip is cancelled due to vehicular problems.

6DoF 10-28-2022 08:23 AM

it's not bad to get out and apart ... but i can't risk this stupid trans again, this truck has to be my long-haul rig.

going to just keep driving it as-is for now, but not towing cuz that's the only time i use 1st. once the XJ is on the road, and i've been able to land an NV5600, i'll have to do the swap this winter.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:12 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.