Official End of the JK, Friday April 27th, 2018

Dennis · 04-25-2018, 11:49 AM

http://www.autonews.com/article/2018...G06/180429898/

Cobound · 04-25-2018, 12:26 PM

Adios...waiting for the JT, or an affordable JL to come along well before I give up my JK.

Was another great Jeep run, now only if they brought the REAL Cherokee (XJ) back w/ the updates the JL received

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bbaCJ8 · 04-26-2018, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobound

Adios...waiting for the JT, or an affordable JL to come along well before I give up my JK.

Was another great Jeep run, now only if they brought the REAL Cherokee (XJ) back w/ the updates the JL received

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JT is gonna be a helluva lot less affordable than the JL, so don't get too excited. I've heard from a reliable source that it's intended as a niche vehicle and will be priced accordingly.

Cobound · 04-26-2018, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bbaCJ8

JT is gonna be a helluva lot less affordable than the JL, so don't get too excited. I've heard from a reliable source that it's intended as a niche vehicle and will be priced accordingly.

Yeah, that's why I said I'll be waiting

Totally NOT excited to hear the price, and likely not even an option after I've had my JK to Moab. I really like the dry storage space, the interior room, wheelbase...and most of all, especially after have my hangover scraping Scrambler...the departure angle on mine is freakin sweet!

Anyway, I'm not a JK hater, so I'm good w/ what I got for the time.

BanditXJ · 05-03-2018, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobound

if they brought the REAL Cherokee (XJ) back w/ the updates the JL received

Man... if only. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

xj_man_646 · 05-03-2018, 09:21 AM

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Man... if only. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

No kidding. Good lord that would be amazing

Sir Sam · 05-03-2018, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BanditXJ

Man... if only. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

Realistically, how much would you be willing to pay for a "new" XJ?

xj_man_646 · 05-04-2018, 06:33 AM

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Realistically, how much would you be willing to pay for a "new" XJ?

I'd probably be interested if MSRP was in the 30-40k range, honestly. 2001 MSRP was in the mid-20's, so I don't think that is too far off assuming it would be equally as loaded with 'features' as the rest of today's vehicles.

Sir Sam · 05-08-2018, 06:45 PM

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I'd probably be interested if MSRP was in the 30-40k range, honestly. 2001 MSRP was in the mid-20's, so I don't think that is too far off assuming it would be equally as loaded with 'features' as the rest of today's vehicles.

Wait, you want an XJ with all of todays features? Thats a JK.

Todays "features" include side impact airbags, side impact crash zones, etc.

You either want an XJ as it was built 17 years ago or you don't.

Plus, haven many of you could even say you would pay $25k for a new XJ exactly as a fully loaded limited 2001 was optioned?

You'd look at it and go, this is all I get for $25k? The JK has more power, better fuel economy, better safety, more interior room, is quieter, etc etc for marginally more money.

BS people would buy that.

6DoF · 04-26-2018, 07:24 AM

Sir Sam · 04-26-2018, 06:17 PM

Man that article was harsh at the end.

xj_man_646 · 04-27-2018, 07:15 AM

The end of the article is accurate.

One thing to note is the wind noise. I drove a JL with 750 miles on it last week, and had wind noise around the doors. Bugged the sh1t out of me for a brand new vehicle with that price tag.

Sir Sam · 04-29-2018, 11:24 PM

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The Jeep Wrangler JK and especially the JKU Wrangler Unlimited were remarkable vehicles when they were introduced, and remained so even as they grew more and more obsolete over the ensuing decade. When the last one rolls on Friday, Jeep fans everywhere should raise a glass to its passing.

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The end of the article is accurate.

Fukkin burn man.

Cobound · 04-27-2018, 09:49 AM

Meh, I've gotten wind noise in other high end vehicles, the JL I drove was everything you could ask for.

It's not a car

That right there was likely their harshest feedback...people buying one thought they were getting into a car, they weren't. Which lead to low reviews and such, as the article stated as well...IIRC. Anyway, "it is what it" is never fit a vehicle better than a Jeep Wrangler

6DoF · 04-27-2018, 12:48 PM

ppl get into $500,000 convertible cars and complain about wind noise ... these are the same ppl executing the pyramid scheme of hate.

xj_man_646 · 04-27-2018, 01:38 PM

It also had more bump steer than my old wheeler did. Metro Detroit roads and a 2 door Wrangler do not go well

I will say it was far more comfortable than the JK's I have driven. When I sit comfortably in a JK, my head is touching the B-pillar. Not so with the JLs I have been in...that is nice.

champ · 04-27-2018, 01:56 PM

I had a 4dr Sahara JK as a rental in Canada this week and I thought it was incredibly quiet and comfortable. The ride was bit firm, but wind noise and tracking at 120kph (

) was great.

Dennis · 04-27-2018, 03:36 PM

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I had a 4dr Sahara JK as a rental in Canada this week and I thought it was incredibly quiet and comfortable. The ride was bit firm, but wind noise and tracking at 120kph (

) was great.

Yeah, relative to a CJ/YJ/TJ, they are silent. Compared to a Mercedes M-class they are a little loud. Compared to the Bentley SUV I rode in a few weeks ago, JKs are like being in a tornado.

bbaCJ8 · 04-30-2018, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by xj_man_646

It also had more bump steer than my old wheeler did. Metro Detroit roads and a 2 door Wrangler do not go well

I will say it was far more comfortable than the JK's I have driven. When I sit comfortably in a JK, my head is touching the B-pillar. Not so with the JLs I have been in...that is nice.

It's easy to fix the wind noise. I was driving one this weekend. Had the freedom panels off for a while, got one of the seals folded over when I reinstalled. Took 30 seconds to fix and it's back to being quieter than my car, even on 35" KM2s.

Bump steer isn't bad at all on these. It's got front and rear track bars, so on major road disturbances they can get upset a bit, but it's not much different than most vehicles I've driven.

xj_man_646 · 04-30-2018, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bbaCJ8

It's easy to fix the wind noise. I was driving one this weekend. Had the freedom panels off for a while, got one of the seals folded over when I reinstalled. Took 30 seconds to fix and it's back to being quieter than my car, even on 35" KM2s.

Bump steer isn't bad at all on these. It's got front and rear track bars, so on major road disturbances they can get upset a bit, but it's not much different than most vehicles I've driven.

The wind noise seemed to be coming from the front of the door on the driver's side (normally passenger's side - this was a RHD model), at the window. Who knows.

It was also a 2 door, which I know makes it a bit more unstable. It seemed to get unsettled easier than anything I have driven in recent history, but a short wheel base, solid axle vehicle will definitely tend to do that. At least it didn't rattle at all.

Who knows...with how much of an after thought the interior design of the RHD model was (very little room around the pedals - trans tunnel, etc., was definitely meant for a LHD vehicle), I wouldn't be surprised if it was a result of the RHD steering design itself

04-25-2018, 11:49 AM	#1
Dennis Semper Fi ! Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 38,818	Official End of the JK, Friday April 27th, 2018 http://www.autonews.com/article/2018...G06/180429898/

04-25-2018, 12:26 PM	#2
Cobound - The Don - Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MN Posts: 49,170	Adios...waiting for the JT, or an affordable JL to come along well before I give up my JK. Was another great Jeep run, now only if they brought the REAL Cherokee (XJ) back w/ the updates the JL received B __________________ To each his own. Not all those who wander are lost. The great irony - triggered snowflakes accusing triggered snowflakes of being triggered snowflakes

04-27-2018, 07:15 AM	#12
xj_man_646 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: MN Posts: 27,739	The end of the article is accurate. One thing to note is the wind noise. I drove a JL with 750 miles on it last week, and had wind noise around the doors. Bugged the sh1t out of me for a brand new vehicle with that price tag. __________________ - James I like diesels

04-27-2018, 09:49 AM	#14
Cobound - The Don - Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MN Posts: 49,170	Meh, I've gotten wind noise in other high end vehicles, the JL I drove was everything you could ask for. It's not a car That right there was likely their harshest feedback...people buying one thought they were getting into a car, they weren't. Which lead to low reviews and such, as the article stated as well...IIRC. Anyway, "it is what it" is never fit a vehicle better than a Jeep Wrangler __________________ To each his own. Not all those who wander are lost. The great irony - triggered snowflakes accusing triggered snowflakes of being triggered snowflakes

04-27-2018, 01:38 PM	#16
xj_man_646 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: MN Posts: 27,739	It also had more bump steer than my old wheeler did. Metro Detroit roads and a 2 door Wrangler do not go well I will say it was far more comfortable than the JK's I have driven. When I sit comfortably in a JK, my head is touching the B-pillar. Not so with the JLs I have been in...that is nice. __________________ - James I like diesels

04-26-2018, 07:24 AM	#10
6DoF AKA: jeepnski Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 16,866

04-26-2018, 06:17 PM	#11
Sir Sam Working Mother Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 19,918	Man that article was harsh at the end.

04-27-2018, 12:48 PM	#15
6DoF AKA: jeepnski Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 16,866	ppl get into $500,000 convertible cars and complain about wind noise ... these are the same ppl executing the pyramid scheme of hate.

04-27-2018, 01:56 PM	#17
champ not cool enough Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: IA Posts: 2,618	I had a 4dr Sahara JK as a rental in Canada this week and I thought it was incredibly quiet and comfortable. The ride was bit firm, but wind noise and tracking at 120kph () was great.