JL Wrangler! Discuss!

[bbaCJ8]

Originally Posted by 6DoF

i'll give Fiat some credit here, i think they did good as long as the quality is there and parts don't just bend/break. they have literally accounted for everything that basically 98% of ppl who buy em want to do. they have also slashed the aftermarket for smalls, so it'll also be interesting to see what they come up with for it.

Yep Mopar hates competition and they've been missing out on a huge market for Jeep stuff for years. I mean they've had stuff available, but nothing to this level. They really stepped it up this time and have lots of good offerings that the competitors(including us) normally offer. We're having to change up our game for sure. It's gonna hurt a lot of smaller aftermarket companies, but the larger more established ones that have already been trying to come up with new, innovative products will hopefully be able to stay ahead of the curve. Mopar is pretty much just catching up to what the aftermarket has been offering for the JK for 5-10 years, so the good aftermarket companies will be able to offer something new and different that Mopar isn't doing yet. All that OEM red tape really bogs them down!

Originally Posted by Dennis

Total BS. Absolutely no signs of abuse or external stress. Just a badly built example. The Xj was built solid the final week of XJ production with the pride of finishing up the run, but the JK has all the signs of being built the last weeks before Summer break for the new model year turn over.

Premature radiator failure seems to be a very common problem on the 3.6 JKs. I haven't looked into what the likely cause is, whether it's design flaw or bad manufacturing, but I've read about failures time and again online. I'm a little surprised there's no TSB or recall, but I guess since it's not safety related and is easy for them to point the fingers elsewhere, they managed to dodge that bullet.

[6DoF]

Originally Posted by bbaCJ8

Premature radiator failure seems to be a very common problem on the 3.6 JKs. I haven't looked into what the likely cause is, whether it's design flaw or bad manufacturing, but I've read about failures time and again online. I'm a little surprised there's no TSB or recall, but I guess since it's not safety related and is easy for them to point the fingers elsewhere, they managed to dodge that bullet.

TSB reads: If water is coming out, it's not supposed to. replace with one that doesn't let water out.

[Dennis]

Originally Posted by bbaCJ8

Premature radiator failure seems to be a very common problem on the 3.6 JKs. I haven't looked into what the likely cause is, whether it's design flaw or bad manufacturing, but I've read about failures time and again online. I'm a little surprised there's no TSB or recall, but I guess since it's not safety related and is easy for them to point the fingers elsewhere, they managed to dodge that bullet.

Originally Posted by 6DoF

TSB reads: If water is coming out, it's not supposed to. replace with one that doesn't let water out.

Kept my receipt, maybe I can get reimbursed if they ever admit to the failings. Doubt it, but a guy can dream, can't he?

[Dennis]

Originally Posted by bbaCJ8

Yep Mopar hates competition and they've been missing out on a huge market for Jeep stuff for years. I mean they've had stuff available, but nothing to this level. They really stepped it up this time and have lots of good offerings that the competitors(including us) normally offer. We're having to change up our game for sure. It's gonna hurt a lot of smaller aftermarket companies, but the larger more established ones that have already been trying to come up with new, innovative products will hopefully be able to stay ahead of the curve. Mopar is pretty much just catching up to what the aftermarket has been offering for the JK for 5-10 years, so the good aftermarket companies will be able to offer something new and different that Mopar isn't doing yet. All that OEM red tape really bogs them down!

I thought that AEV supplied a lot of those Mopar items like the Moab and Rubicon X bumpers and hoods?

[bbaCJ8]

Originally Posted by Dennis

I thought that AEV supplied a lot of those Mopar items like the Moab and Rubicon X bumpers and hoods?

There are a few, but it's handled in unique ways. AEV is very much a competitor of Mopar and the relationship isn't what most think. From what I gather Mopar often has their hands tied by things like OEM FMVSS(federal motor vehicle safety standards) and aren't able to do all the cool stuff a lot of other aftermarket companies can, so things aren't as simple or friendly as they seem. I always thought otherwise too.

[Dennis]

Originally Posted by bbaCJ8

There are a few, but it's handled in unique ways. AEV is very much a competitor of Mopar and the relationship isn't what most think. From what I gather Mopar often has their hands tied by things like OEM FMVSS(federal motor vehicle safety standards) and aren't able to do all the cool stuff a lot of other aftermarket companies can, so things aren't as simple or friendly as they seem. I always thought otherwise too.

So, do you have a code for friends to get a discount on AEV rear bumpers? I wish to not give Chrysler any insurance money to replace my rear bumper after getting rear ended last weekend.

[bbaCJ8]

Originally Posted by Dennis

So, do you have a code for friends to get a discount on AEV rear bumpers? I wish to not give Chrysler any insurance money to replace my rear bumper after getting rear ended last weekend.

I can most likely get you 20% off. If you make any for sure decisions about what you want to do, shoot me a PM and we'll talk details.

[Dennis]

Originally Posted by bbaCJ8

I can most likely get you 20% off. If you make any for sure decisions about what you want to do, shoot me a PM and we'll talk details.

Awesome! Thanks!