Rubicon Trip 2018 - Page 2

Cobound · 09-18-2018, 11:48 AM

You nailed it!

I'm quite happy w/ the 3.6 and 5.38s on 40s as well. Would I love a Hemi, or an LS, sure. The cost far outweighs the gain...in my pocketbook anyway. But mine isn't a business write-off either

6DoF · 09-19-2018, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xj_man_646

Says the guy building a Jeep with blingy front and rear 9" that will surely never leave the pavement

... they are built for totally different things

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Originally Posted by Kurt

The JK is a company vehicle...don't use it on the street much. I take it to shows and events, and wheelin. The JK has all of the KD Fabworks bumpers/skid plates on it, the TJ does not. With a family, the JK makes more sense to build.

i keep forgetting about the company vehicle thing. and who has kids? aren't we all still in HS/College?

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I also need more space for the business and the TJ is taking up a lot of space. I can finish that, sell it, put that money into the JK and build it to do what I need and be a marketing piece.

um ... dayum, don't want to see her go

xj_man_646 · 09-19-2018, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 6DoF

um ... dayum, don't want to see her go

How much to keep it in the

family I wonder

Kurt · 09-19-2018, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 6DoF

i keep forgetting about the company vehicle thing. and who has kids? aren't we all still in HS/College?

Right? I was doing some work on the TJ yesterday, was looking at the rear kids seats I put in. I started the build before my son was born....he's now 8 and my daughter is almost 4.

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um ... dayum, don't want to see her go

Same here. But if I find a way to keep it then I will, but for now the plan is to sell it to make room, and build the JKU.

Kurt · 09-19-2018, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by xj_man_646

how much to keep it in the

Family i wonder

$35,000

Cobound · 09-19-2018, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt

Right? I was doing some work on the TJ yesterday, was looking at the rear kids seats I put in. I started the build before my son was born....he's now 8 and my daughter is almost 4.

Man, makes me think, my oldest is in her first year of college, she was born when I still had my '87 YJ...moved to an XJ, came here, things went sideways from there

jeepkid05 · 09-25-2018, 12:18 PM

Awesome pics and scenery. I’d love to get out there one day.

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Originally Posted by Cobound

You nailed it!

I'm quite happy w/ the 3.6 and 5.38s on 40s as well. Would I love a Hemi, or an LS, sure. The cost far outweighs the gain...in my pocketbook anyway. But mine isn't a business write-off either

Is it really OKAY?? I find that if you don’t have a v8 anything over 37’s is just gutless. 40s are big and heavy. I understand gearing goes a long way, but are you just fooling yourself into thinking it’s fine.

Cobound · 09-25-2018, 02:03 PM

Nope, serious. Dead serious. I talked to a lot of people about it when I was considering this one. Yes, it's OK. Is it a V8, no...was it an added $30k upgrade, NO!

Has no problem getting up to 80, doesn't downshift like mad like the old 3.8 stock, much less lifted. I'm pretty impressed, and NEVER would've kept it, much less driven it home, if it wasn't satisfactory.

Come drive it, I think you'd be surprised. I certainly was.

6DoF · 09-26-2018, 11:31 AM

just being faster than a 1968 Super Beetle ... does NOT constitute it being OK

nblehm · 09-26-2018, 09:02 PM

I was ok with my jeep on 40s and 4.10s and a 4.0

v8 35s and 4.10s is much more fun though...

Cobound · 09-27-2018, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 6DoF

just being faster than a 1968 Super Beetle ... does NOT constitute it being OK

Meh, you give me the $20-30k and I'll gladly upgrade

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I was ok with my jeep on 40s and 4.10s and a 4.0

v8 35s and 4.10s is much more fun though...

OH, sure...my Ram is much more fun w/ the pedal, but whatever.

MBood82 · 09-27-2018, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobound

Meh, you give me the $20-30k and I'll gladly upgrade

OH, sure...my Ram is much more fun w/ the pedal, but whatever.

Every time I think about trading in my Ram on something I come to the realization that anything I'd want would be slower or I'd be giving up on having the lifted vehicle experience. A Wrangler, or even the Wrangler pickup when it comes out, sounds cool but without a V8 I really lose interest.

That said, it sounds like Dodge is bringing the Dakota back on the Wrangler pickup platform, if they stick a V8 in it again like they did the last one it would be hard to turn away!

6DoF · 09-27-2018, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobound

Meh, you give me the $20-30k and I'll gladly upgrade

$30k? wtf are you swapping in?!?!

for $30k ... drop off your jeep with me, i'll take vacation, drop in a blown v8 with built trans/t-case, and make enough profit to still take your a$s out for a baller steak dinner and not worry if you order dessert

MBood82 · 09-27-2018, 02:36 PM

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$30k? wtf are you swapping in?!?!

for $30k ... drop off your jeep with me, i'll take vacation, drop in a blown v8 with built trans/t-case, and make enough profit to still take your a$s out for a baller steak dinner and not worry if you order dessert

I'm pretty sure AEV charges that much but you are starting with a new engine and transmission usually, plus the conversion parts area all fully engineered and designed to go together, no cobbling together bits.

I'm sure he'd like to keep his driveshaft IN the Jeep after a few miles, right?

Cobound · 09-27-2018, 03:55 PM

Yep, I have a local shop that could do it, even a guy out west that is a SEMA genius, for $20-25...but that's just it, reliable Hemi, fully engineered and integrated to work properly...I'm not going to do some sort of backyard garage hack on a vehicle of this nature. Have you never researched a V8 swap?

Hell, an LS isn't much cheaper.

Kurt · 09-28-2018, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobound

Yep, I have a local shop that could do it, even a guy out west that is a SEMA genius, for $20-25...but that's just it, reliable Hemi, fully engineered and integrated to work properly...I'm not going to do some sort of backyard garage hack on a vehicle of this nature. Have you never researched a V8 swap?

Hell, an LS isn't much cheaper.

I've got a buddy of mine that is taking his JKU down to MOTECH in Vegas next week to get a new 6.2L L94. It includes an HD radiator, Camaro SS fan, new 241J transfer case, 6L80 trans, and labor for $20,500.

Cobound · 09-28-2018, 02:27 PM

Yep, so there is that $20k mark...still out of reasonable consideration when it comes down to budget. Fun, hell yes...realistic on my salary, nope. I'm lucky I have what I have

6DoF · 09-28-2018, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MBood82

I'm sure he'd like to keep his driveshaft IN the Jeep after a few miles, right?

Cobound · 10-01-2018, 01:37 PM

^^

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Originally Posted by 6DoF

$30k? wtf are you swapping in?!?!

for $30k ... drop off your jeep with me, i'll take vacation, drop in a blown v8 with built trans/t-case, and make enough profit to still take your a$s out for a baller steak dinner and not worry if you order dessert

The guy I bought the Jeep from actually did that...after he took a serious bath on the sale price

Honestly, I'd love a V8, but I am pretty happy w/ the way it runs and drives w/ a 3.6. My buddy w/ a 6.4 in his JK even says it has some pep for a 6.

09-18-2018, 11:48 AM	#21
Cobound - The Don - Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MN Posts: 49,142	You nailed it! I'm quite happy w/ the 3.6 and 5.38s on 40s as well. Would I love a Hemi, or an LS, sure. The cost far outweighs the gain...in my pocketbook anyway. But mine isn't a business write-off either __________________ To each his own. Not all those who wander are lost. The great irony - triggered snowflakes accusing triggered snowflakes of being triggered snowflakes

09-25-2018, 02:03 PM	#28
Cobound - The Don - Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MN Posts: 49,142	Nope, serious. Dead serious. I talked to a lot of people about it when I was considering this one. Yes, it's OK. Is it a V8, no...was it an added $30k upgrade, NO! Has no problem getting up to 80, doesn't downshift like mad like the old 3.8 stock, much less lifted. I'm pretty impressed, and NEVER would've kept it, much less driven it home, if it wasn't satisfactory. Come drive it, I think you'd be surprised. I certainly was. __________________ To each his own. Not all those who wander are lost. The great irony - triggered snowflakes accusing triggered snowflakes of being triggered snowflakes

09-27-2018, 03:55 PM	#35
Cobound - The Don - Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MN Posts: 49,142	Yep, I have a local shop that could do it, even a guy out west that is a SEMA genius, for $20-25...but that's just it, reliable Hemi, fully engineered and integrated to work properly...I'm not going to do some sort of backyard garage hack on a vehicle of this nature. Have you never researched a V8 swap? Hell, an LS isn't much cheaper. __________________ To each his own. Not all those who wander are lost. The great irony - triggered snowflakes accusing triggered snowflakes of being triggered snowflakes

09-28-2018, 02:27 PM	#37
Cobound - The Don - Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MN Posts: 49,142	Yep, so there is that $20k mark...still out of reasonable consideration when it comes down to budget. Fun, hell yes...realistic on my salary, nope. I'm lucky I have what I have __________________ To each his own. Not all those who wander are lost. The great irony - triggered snowflakes accusing triggered snowflakes of being triggered snowflakes

09-26-2018, 11:31 AM	#29
6DoF AKA: jeepnski Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 16,854	just being faster than a 1968 Super Beetle ... does NOT constitute it being OK

09-26-2018, 09:02 PM	#30
nblehm Needs moar dagger Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 26,776	I was ok with my jeep on 40s and 4.10s and a 4.0 v8 35s and 4.10s is much more fun though...