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Old 03-13-2021, 10:45 AM   #121
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That frame is coming out so good. i could look at that rear crossmember/link mount pic all day.
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Old 03-14-2021, 10:42 AM   #122
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That frame is coming out so good. i could look at that rear crossmember/link mount pic all day.
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Old 03-14-2021, 02:42 PM   #123
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Looks good. I still think it should be galvanized.
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Old 03-15-2021, 08:02 AM   #124
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Matt, I suggest 4" exhaust. There is no reason to struggle to package a full 5" turbo back system. You won't have the power to use that much flow.
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Old 03-15-2021, 08:16 AM   #125
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Matt, I suggest 4" exhaust. There is no reason to struggle to package a full 5" turbo back system. You won't have the power to use that much flow.
right now i won't ... but eventually i fully intent to.
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Old 03-15-2021, 08:17 AM   #126
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this next bit of fab is going to make a few of you twitch. off road fab'd some drive shafts for test fitting and set-up this weekend. i have actually had very good success doing this with perfect balance at 80mph, and living years under jeeps being beat off road. so i'm sure this is a long-term temporary solution.

had to make a little clearance on the fwd shaft to the crossmember. held a sharpie on a pc of 1/4" plate and spun the shaft to get about 1/2" clearance. if the chassis twists enough to get that to contact, the solution isn't more clearance but adding a roll cage this shaft is 1410 joints, and will eventually just get a new professionally balanced pc.

the rear shaft helped me set the rear pinion angle and check it thru travel. at full droop i set the pinion 2deg below the shaft to allow for a little motion up under torque loading. at full compression the pinion is only 1.2deg below the pinion, so ride will be somewhere in the middle. axle perches are officially tacked in place, making the axle DONE and ready for final weld/paint. this shaft is a junkyard 1350 cv, eventually i'll get a new 1410 cv unit and have to change the yoke on the axle at the same time. that's probably also a good time to get better gears and limited slip installed.

i'm quickly running out of things to fab and procrastinate doing the floor ...





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Old 03-15-2021, 10:04 AM   #127
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right now i won't ... but eventually i fully intent to.
No, Matt, you won't. 5" is capable of so much flow that you will not reliably make that much power out of a 12v tow rig.

It will also help with noise.
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Old 03-15-2021, 11:03 AM   #128
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I made a driveshaft with old shafts when I ls swapped my j-10. It was ok enough to drive under 60 but it wasnt any where close to square. I didnt put much effort into it though.
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Old 03-15-2021, 01:36 PM   #129
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This is super sick. What welder are you running?
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Old 03-15-2021, 01:40 PM   #130
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This is super sick. What welder are you running?
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welder is the same Lincoln Sp175+ i bought in college with my student loan was the cheapest 220 welder at the time with both infinite voltage and wire control.
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Are there no 'upper control arms' with a truck arm suspension?
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Holy Christ this is moving along nicely...so many small details you're hitting, too.

That said, all that nice frame fabbing and welding and you're just going to cover it up w/ some old patina body panels

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Are there no 'upper control arms' with a truck arm suspension?
no sir, they are radius arms. but because of the triangulation and reduced deflection thru articulation the axle is bolted directly to them vs with bushings. also creates a little bit of a sway bar effect.
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Holy Christ this is moving along nicely...so many small details you're hitting, too.

That said, all that nice frame fabbing and welding and you're just going to cover it up w/ some old patina body panels

thanks!

and yes i am! maybe one day i'll make a bed floor hatch to show off the rear end, but probably not. also maybe one day i'll make the whole truck shinny, but not for a while.

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no sir, they are radius arms. but because of the triangulation and reduced deflection thru articulation the axle is bolted directly to them vs with bushings. also creates a little bit of a sway bar effect.
Interesting. I had never really looked into it much.
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No, Matt, you won't. 5" is capable of so much flow that you will not reliably make that much power out of a 12v tow rig.

It will also help with noise.
you might be right ... but still doing it. my research says that the 5" has a deeper tone, and generally less raspy like i want. i've also ordered a muffler to go behind the resonator to try and even take out a bit more noise. as for power, everyone on average seamed to think that it would help on an engine making 600+hp, especially at higher RPM when using the 4k+ gov spring. and i intend to do both of those things.
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as for power, everyone on average seamed to think that it would help on an engine making 600+hp, especially at higher RPM when using the 4k+ gov spring. and i intend to do both of those things.
I fully believe it'll still be overkill. Unless the turbo outlet is 5" or larger you're restricted from the get-go anyway, and that seems huge, at least in my mind compared to what I'm used to seeing on trucks. Just something to consider if it becomes tough to package exhaust. You do you, as they say. I'm enjoying watching the progress! Seeing stuff like this kinda / sorta makes me wish I had kept up with CAD or gotten a job that uses it. I've also seen some of the wheeler alumni use CAD for their cage designs to great success.
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Old 03-15-2021, 10:10 PM   #138
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Seeing stuff like this kinda / sorta makes me wish I had kept up with CAD or gotten a job that uses it. I've also seen some of the wheeler alumni use CAD for their cage designs to great success.
oh man, i'll never go back! i love it!
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IMHO 5” is the only way to go on a Cummins. It sounds like a big rig.
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Old 03-15-2021, 11:00 PM   #140
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the best thing you can do is run open, zero back pressure at all. i can fit it down the side, so why not!

i'll probably have to 3" the first 3 ft
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