JK vs. JL - Page 2

Cobound · 03-15-2023, 09:16 AM

LOL - to each his own, I've just been in the JK, TJ and now JL/JT world long enough to know that there are issues with one over the other.

TJ are nostalgic, but that's it. Unless you're out to Sunday drive w/ the top and doors off, or build a wheeler, it's now become the Tacoma - purpose is to benefit the wheeler or low mile guy, with an antiquated interior, etc. We've had several, long term, daily driver, wheeler, and only way I'd own another one would be to get an Unlimited and do a moderate build, or all out wheeler.

JK - Jeep really did it right here, haters gonna hate, but it's a great vehicle, we've had several and have enjoyed each one. From stock to heavily modified, great in between vehicle...and still reasonable with a manual. I'd recommend a 2012 or newer for mechanical changes and some interior mods, even better a 2015 or newer for some slight interior mods, otherwise they really are all the same.

JL - hands down, my JT is my fav, but I'm a slush box fan and love the auto...the 8 speeds is butter. That said, interior has improved, lots of updates, smoother ride - but well established, the manual blows.

It's not politics, I'm just pretty steadfast in my stance on these

Again, when you know what you're really going to go for LMK and I'll keep my eyes peeled. Be willing to travel for the right one and jump, make it an adventure

Good luck!

MBood82 · 03-15-2023, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 6DoF

well, i happen to know where there is a rust free southern LJ for sale, pre-built but needs some general TLC and adjustments. BUT ... it's an auto.

it's my BIL's, and i've actually been trying to convince the wife she wants to drive it in the winter and sell the GC.

I'd love to go that route, but it being an auto kills it. I also don't need something that built, there are no trails within a reasonable distance of where I live (north of Chicago) so it would be a pure mall crawler. Feel a bit guilty about that!

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Originally Posted by nblehm

What are you Old or something?

I've lifted friends Jeeps, both a TJ and a JK. The JK just was better designed and easier to work on. Knowing it would fall on me to service it the better suspension with less age/rust is a solid win.

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Originally Posted by Cobound

LOL - to each his own, I've just been in the JK, TJ and now JL/JT world long enough to know that there are issues with one over the other.

TJ are nostalgic, but that's it. Unless you're out to Sunday drive w/ the top and doors off, or build a wheeler, it's now become the Tacoma - purpose is to benefit the wheeler or low mile guy, with an antiquated interior, etc. We've had several, long term, daily driver, wheeler, and only way I'd own another one would be to get an Unlimited and do a moderate build, or all out wheeler.

JK - Jeep really did it right here, haters gonna hate, but it's a great vehicle, we've had several and have enjoyed each one. From stock to heavily modified, great in between vehicle...and still reasonable with a manual. I'd recommend a 2012 or newer for mechanical changes and some interior mods, even better a 2015 or newer for some slight interior mods, otherwise they really are all the same.

JL - hands down, my JT is my fav, but I'm a slush box fan and love the auto...the 8 speeds is butter. That said, interior has improved, lots of updates, smoother ride - but well established, the manual blows.

It's not politics, I'm just pretty steadfast in my stance on these

Again, when you know what you're really going to go for LMK and I'll keep my eyes peeled. Be willing to travel for the right one and jump, make it an adventure

Good luck!

I'm hoping my 300C comes in soon-ish. I'd really like to get that settled before I start looking at the next vehicle. Still waiting on a build date though...

Cobound · 03-15-2023, 02:29 PM

Sounds like a terrible work trip

I can't imagine w/ your BIL is going to ask for that TJL

I've considered one for a toy for a long time, but here they are rusty, high miles and stupid spendy still...so I gave up on it, especially seeing most of them in fair condition going between $18-30k

They didn't cost that new

Anyway, it's a dream vehicle that I won't realistically chase any more, too many other toys in my pocket

nblehm · 03-15-2023, 03:36 PM

Cobound · 03-15-2023, 03:54 PM

Automatic - fail

nblehm · 03-15-2023, 04:04 PM

Yeah but a semi reasonably priced LJ with low miles

MBood82 · 03-15-2023, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nblehm

Yeah but a semi reasonably priced LJ with low miles

I like that!

Cobound · 03-15-2023, 04:09 PM

Yes, semi reasonable.

bbaCJ8 · 03-15-2023, 05:57 PM

I could have had my mom's low mile LJ for practically free but she let the thing rust out so damn bad I wanted nothing to do with it. I spent an hour to patch the floor, listed it honestly on marketplace, and still sold it in an hour for $6k. Dude had it for sale again a week or two later once he realized what a POS it was.

nblehm · 03-15-2023, 06:47 PM

As long as somebody hasn’t invaded from another state, most jeeps here are pretty rust free

Jeepin Jason · 05-22-2023, 09:45 AM

So whatever happened with this? Did you ever find/buy a Jeep?

While I think a JL is arguably a better overall vehicle than the JK was, I would not buy a JL (or JT) with the manual transmission. Too many clutch issues, and the 8sp is just awesome.

I would however, definitely buy a manual JK. I'm a bit biased though since that's what I already drive.

And while a late model JK would be more expensive than a TJ or LJ, I think I think I'd go for a JK over a TJ/LJ unless you just want the old-schooliness of a TJ/LJ.

MBood82 · 05-22-2023, 12:50 PM

Great timing!

I was looking pretty hard the past couple months for a JK. Have some automated searches going on Autotrader and Cars.com, etc. My bonus wasn't going to hit until earlier this month so I wanted to watch the market and see what it looked like. Of course, it's a Jeep, and a pretty specific one at that, so not cheap!

I ran across a random K5 Blazer ad while looking at Jeeps on Facebook and my wife said she'd be OK with me looking at them as well. I had pretty much given up on my dream of owning a K5 due to their age and the desire for this to be a backup winter vehicle. I started looking and found one that's pretty much perfect for my desires, so I changed course and now am buying a 1977 K5 Blazer out in Oregon. Just trying to get it back out here now!

Jeepin Jason · 05-23-2023, 01:22 PM

Well that took an unforeseen turn.

Congrats though! K5s are cool old rigs.

Cobound · 05-24-2023, 12:48 PM

LOL, right - totally turned!!

For a good rig tho, I like how you roll, dude. I would have done the same thing...have, actually.

Get it, enjoy it, and if you want to move on you'll have had a taste of it and move to the next.

Killer rigs, always loved those - my dad had one when I was a wee lad, as have some of my uncles (they worked at the GM plant in Janesville, WI) - such a soft spot for those - and this one is beyond stock

MBood82 · 05-24-2023, 02:32 PM

Once I get hands on it I'll get some good photos and post them as well as more details on the build. It's quite literally a "too much to list" type build that looks like it literally had everything top shelf for a PNW snow wheeler/weekend driver built in the mid-2000s. Every time I look at the photos I see another detail. I know it's going to need some fixing up as it's been wheeled and driven pretty hard since then but the hard points are all there and it's currently running and driving well, so I can let it nickle and dime me some if I want without being down a toy.

03-15-2023, 09:16 AM	#1
Cobound - The Don - Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MN Posts: 48,460	LOL - to each his own, I've just been in the JK, TJ and now JL/JT world long enough to know that there are issues with one over the other. TJ are nostalgic, but that's it. Unless you're out to Sunday drive w/ the top and doors off, or build a wheeler, it's now become the Tacoma - purpose is to benefit the wheeler or low mile guy, with an antiquated interior, etc. We've had several, long term, daily driver, wheeler, and only way I'd own another one would be to get an Unlimited and do a moderate build, or all out wheeler. JK - Jeep really did it right here, haters gonna hate, but it's a great vehicle, we've had several and have enjoyed each one. From stock to heavily modified, great in between vehicle...and still reasonable with a manual. I'd recommend a 2012 or newer for mechanical changes and some interior mods, even better a 2015 or newer for some slight interior mods, otherwise they really are all the same. JL - hands down, my JT is my fav, but I'm a slush box fan and love the auto...the 8 speeds is butter. That said, interior has improved, lots of updates, smoother ride - but well established, the manual blows. It's not politics, I'm just pretty steadfast in my stance on these Again, when you know what you're really going to go for LMK and I'll keep my eyes peeled. Be willing to travel for the right one and jump, make it an adventure Good luck! __________________ To each his own. Not all those who wander are lost. The great irony - triggered snowflakes accusing triggered snowflakes of being triggered snowflakes

03-15-2023, 02:29 PM	#3
Cobound - The Don - Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MN Posts: 48,460	Sounds like a terrible work trip I can't imagine w/ your BIL is going to ask for that TJL I've considered one for a toy for a long time, but here they are rusty, high miles and stupid spendy still...so I gave up on it, especially seeing most of them in fair condition going between $18-30k They didn't cost that new Anyway, it's a dream vehicle that I won't realistically chase any more, too many other toys in my pocket __________________ To each his own. Not all those who wander are lost. The great irony - triggered snowflakes accusing triggered snowflakes of being triggered snowflakes

03-15-2023, 03:54 PM	#5
Cobound - The Don - Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MN Posts: 48,460	Automatic - fail __________________ To each his own. Not all those who wander are lost. The great irony - triggered snowflakes accusing triggered snowflakes of being triggered snowflakes

03-15-2023, 04:09 PM	#8
Cobound - The Don - Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MN Posts: 48,460	Yes, semi reasonable. __________________ To each his own. Not all those who wander are lost. The great irony - triggered snowflakes accusing triggered snowflakes of being triggered snowflakes

05-24-2023, 12:48 PM	#14
Cobound - The Don - Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MN Posts: 48,460	LOL, right - totally turned!! For a good rig tho, I like how you roll, dude. I would have done the same thing...have, actually. Get it, enjoy it, and if you want to move on you'll have had a taste of it and move to the next. Killer rigs, always loved those - my dad had one when I was a wee lad, as have some of my uncles (they worked at the GM plant in Janesville, WI) - such a soft spot for those - and this one is beyond stock __________________ To each his own. Not all those who wander are lost. The great irony - triggered snowflakes accusing triggered snowflakes of being triggered snowflakes

03-15-2023, 03:36 PM	#4
nblehm Needs moar dagger Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 26,689

03-15-2023, 04:04 PM	#6
nblehm Needs moar dagger Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 26,689	Yeah but a semi reasonably priced LJ with low miles

03-15-2023, 05:57 PM	#9
bbaCJ8 old and boring Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 33,878	I could have had my mom's low mile LJ for practically free but she let the thing rust out so damn bad I wanted nothing to do with it. I spent an hour to patch the floor, listed it honestly on marketplace, and still sold it in an hour for $6k. Dude had it for sale again a week or two later once he realized what a POS it was.

03-15-2023, 06:47 PM	#10
nblehm Needs moar dagger Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 26,689	As long as somebody hasn’t invaded from another state, most jeeps here are pretty rust free

05-22-2023, 09:45 AM	#11
Jeepin Jason I run this joint Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 136,698	So whatever happened with this? Did you ever find/buy a Jeep? While I think a JL is arguably a better overall vehicle than the JK was, I would not buy a JL (or JT) with the manual transmission. Too many clutch issues, and the 8sp is just awesome. I would however, definitely buy a manual JK. I'm a bit biased though since that's what I already drive. And while a late model JK would be more expensive than a TJ or LJ, I think I think I'd go for a JK over a TJ/LJ unless you just want the old-schooliness of a TJ/LJ.

05-22-2023, 12:50 PM	#12
MBood82 Turd Ferguson Join Date: May 2004 Location: Almost Wisconsin Posts: 14,714	Great timing! I was looking pretty hard the past couple months for a JK. Have some automated searches going on Autotrader and Cars.com, etc. My bonus wasn't going to hit until earlier this month so I wanted to watch the market and see what it looked like. Of course, it's a Jeep, and a pretty specific one at that, so not cheap! I ran across a random K5 Blazer ad while looking at Jeeps on Facebook and my wife said she'd be OK with me looking at them as well. I had pretty much given up on my dream of owning a K5 due to their age and the desire for this to be a backup winter vehicle. I started looking and found one that's pretty much perfect for my desires, so I changed course and now am buying a 1977 K5 Blazer out in Oregon. Just trying to get it back out here now!

05-23-2023, 01:22 PM	#13
Jeepin Jason I run this joint Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 136,698	Well that took an unforeseen turn. Congrats though! K5s are cool old rigs.

05-24-2023, 02:32 PM	#15
MBood82 Turd Ferguson Join Date: May 2004 Location: Almost Wisconsin Posts: 14,714	Once I get hands on it I'll get some good photos and post them as well as more details on the build. It's quite literally a "too much to list" type build that looks like it literally had everything top shelf for a PNW snow wheeler/weekend driver built in the mid-2000s. Every time I look at the photos I see another detail. I know it's going to need some fixing up as it's been wheeled and driven pretty hard since then but the hard points are all there and it's currently running and driving well, so I can let it nickle and dime me some if I want without being down a toy.