2024 Wrangler

[6DoF]

that's early run too with the non-family cage ... that thing could still be carbureted

[Dennis]

Originally Posted by 6DoF

that's early run too with the non-family cage ... that thing could still be carbureted

There was no YJ Rubicon equivalent. The base listed there is a fuel injected 2.5L I-4

But still, you can

[Dennis]

Originally Posted by nblehm

Comparing a rubicon to a base YJ price isn’t fair.

Not that I am arguing a 70k jeep isn’t waaaaay too much

Originally Posted by 6DoF

that's early run too with the non-family cage ... that thing could still be carbureted

There was no YJ Rubicon equivalent. The base listed there is a fuel injected 2.5L I-4

But still, you can not get a two door JL for under $32k. Right at the average 2023 new car price. That average car priced base option less JL is much better equipped than the 1988 base YJ. But still the 2023 more than half the average US salary while the 1988 was less than half.

[Cobound]

Originally Posted by Jeepin Jason

I priced out a Rubicon recently, and it was just over $70K. Now, that was basically fully loaded, with the 35" tire pkg, steel bumpers, winch, hard top, color matched flares/top, upgraded stereo, etc. Which I figure was still cheaper overall than starting with a regular Rubicon and then adding a lift, tires, bumpers, winch, etc after market. But still... that's literally Lexus GX460 money. And far more than any 4Runner. But at the same time, the Wrangler has 35" tires, bumpers, winch, etc. so it's basically fully modded up and ready to go wherever you're willing to take it. The base model Rubicon now starts are more than what my well-equipped 2016 HardRock stickered at... And the Rubicon X MSRP is 2x what I paid for my 2009 Rubicon.

Yep, while prices are absurd, if you're looking for a min 35" tire w/ mods and not having to do them yourself, saving labor, this is a buy to make.

Still tough to stomach tho.

Originally Posted by 6DoF

locally there are wranglers 6-9k below MSRP on the lots ... Rams are 10k off msrp here

Yep, if you're a smart shopper and been looking for a long time, know what you're looking for and ready to pull the trigger w/ a fat down payment, there are deals out there for the taking!

Originally Posted by nblehm

I briefly talked to Cobound about new gladiators because there are max tow gladiators for under 40k on the lots here. Then I came to my senses.

Dude, I don't normally lose someone, as soon as they talk to me they go buy...you're an outlier

Think of all the free time you'd have w/o having to work on your old stuff