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Old 11-10-2004, 07:42 PM   #1
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Well I don't know about you guys but we got a four day weekend becasue of the holiday and was just wondering what you guys were up to. I have a few projects to take care of including welding up a crack on my exhuast header on my XJ, which I got started on tonight
Before starting,

After getting it out


I also have to
-install some JKS/ORGS rear shock mounts (thanks jason)
-install a C-ROCK steering brace
-wire in a in-cab winch contol
-fab up a Powertank bracket, get the tank filled and install it

-and of course we are going wheeling one day this weekend too!!
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ill be workin on my On board air.. amkin a tank bracket for thet.. )thinkin of a small tank in front of the fuel tank seems to be alot of wasted space there)
replacing my fawked spring.
some exhause work ( exhaust looks like a wind chime all the loose hangin pipes under there)
some re-wiring of lights.. mabe addin a few more.
i like that oil pan skid i saw on JT earlier so i might make me one of them. (nice design)
bobcats talkin about a lift of sort
i need to make zeede a rear bumper/ tire carrier..and rock sliders.
and tuneman needs a fuel skid......
matt needs his tranny put back in.... as well as some other misc stuff.....
and im sure ill come up with a few more things....
o and i have my 8.8 and gears and all but need to put it all together so theres that too....
so.. not a whole lot goin on
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ill be replacing a wheel bearing
relocating my horn and vaccum canister

the following weekend will be replacing my cracked header and most likely installing TJ flares if they are here in time
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I'm going wheelin. Rather than fixing things I will be generating more things to fix.

But, today I put together a new driveshaft with a longer slip yoke and 2 new u-joints, and I got my aux lights working again and wired properly through a relay, and tomorrow I'll have the CB working again and the rear aux lights working.
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[img]icon_smile_wink.gif[/img] Waiting on two banjo bolts, then thats done.

[ November 10, 2004, 08:07 PM: Message edited by: Timmay ]
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Quote:
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ill be workin on my On board air.. amkin a tank bracket for thet.. )thinkin of a small tank in front of the fuel tank seems to be alot of wasted space there)
replacing my fawked spring.
some exhause work ( exhaust looks like a wind chime all the loose hangin pipes under there)
some re-wiring of lights.. mabe addin a few more.
i like that oil pan skid i saw on JT earlier so i might make me one of them. (nice design)
bobcats talkin about a lift of sort
i need to make zeede a rear bumper/ tire carrier..and rock sliders.
and tuneman needs a fuel skid......
matt needs his tranny put back in.... as well as some other misc stuff.....
and im sure ill come up with a few more things....
o and i have my 8.8 and gears and all but need to put it all together so theres that too....
so.. not a whole lot goin on
you forgot something [img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img]
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yeah that im first cuz ive already given him some money and placed my order first
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ill be replacing a wheel bearing
relocating my horn and vaccum canister

the following weekend will be replacing my cracked header and most likely installing TJ flares if they are here in time
what header did you end up going with? I am going to try and weld mine and see what happens.
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yeah that im first cuz ive already given him some money and placed my order first
i am doing work for him, I am turning al his hand drwn $hit into to CAD
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I don't have a 4 day weekend, so I'm gonna spend some of it trying to get the womans Jeep heatin up again, and hopefully on saturday *finally* start building some bumpers...
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[img]icon_smile_wink.gif[/img] Waiting on two banjo bolts, then thats done.
what brackets you use timmay? libby?
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and what holiday weekend is everyone talkin bout, the only holiday that gives off round here comin up is t-day and thats for 2 weeks yet
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Timmay, you should do a write-up on the disc install. I've never seen it done on the 8.25(I think I remember that being what you have) and I'd like to see what parts and stuff you used
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****ing werd. all that **** is in the damn trash

parts :eek3:

some very minor clearancing was needed

the really hard part

what it looks like now

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</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by diesel298:
ill be workin on my On board air.. amkin a tank bracket for thet.. )thinkin of a small tank in front of the fuel tank seems to be alot of wasted space there)
replacing my fawked spring.
some exhause work ( exhaust looks like a wind chime all the loose hangin pipes under there)
some re-wiring of lights.. mabe addin a few more.
i like that oil pan skid i saw on JT earlier so i might make me one of them. (nice design)
bobcats talkin about a lift of sort
i need to make zeede a rear bumper/ tire carrier..and rock sliders.
and tuneman needs a fuel skid......
matt needs his tranny put back in.... as well as some other misc stuff.....
and im sure ill come up with a few more things....
o and i have my 8.8 and gears and all but need to put it all together so theres that too....
so.. not a whole lot goin on
you forgot something [img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]o and some shackles
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Timmay, you should do a write-up on the disc install. I've never seen it done on the 8.25(I think I remember that being what you have) and I'd like to see what parts and stuff you used
Really? It's a fairly common swap. I've only seen one writeup on it. After buying the 96 ZJ brackets, I saw a Libby with discs in the rear, and remembered they had the 8.25 in the rear. I havent seen anyone do the libby swap so I went with the ZJ swap. Im not sure if the bolt pattern is different or net, etc. etc. The ZJ brackets required VERY minor grinding to the larger opening that fits around the axle tube. I also slightly grinded the bolt holes to line up better, it was a pretty tight fit and I didn't want to flatten the threads. I took off under a 1/16" off the bracket to make it fit, very easy and took about 3 minutes with a dremel. A writeup will come soon enough once I get these damn banjo bolts. Expect it saturday night. [img]icon_smile_wink.gif[/img]

That one writeup I used is here:

http://www.akappler.com/document_ser...&doc=rear_disc

That's for a pre-97 8.25. But mine bolted up fine. Lemme know if you have any ?s.
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i have to drill a tap out of my block that broke off and today i strated and the drill bit broke off inside the tap
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</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by bbaXJ:
Timmay, you should do a write-up on the disc install. I've never seen it done on the 8.25(I think I remember that being what you have) and I'd like to see what parts and stuff you used
Really? It's a fairly common swap. I've only seen one writeup on it. After buying the 96 ZJ brackets, I saw a Libby with discs in the rear, and remembered they had the 8.25 in the rear. I havent seen anyone do the libby swap so I went with the ZJ swap. Im not sure if the bolt pattern is different or net, etc. etc. The ZJ brackets required VERY minor grinding to the larger opening that fits around the axle tube. I also slightly grinded the bolt holes to line up better, it was a pretty tight fit and I didn't want to flatten the threads. I took off under a 1/16" off the bracket to make it fit, very easy and took about 3 minutes with a dremel. A writeup will come soon enough once I get these damn banjo bolts. Expect it saturday night. [img]icon_smile_wink.gif[/img]

That one writeup I used is here:

http://www.akappler.com/document_ser...&doc=rear_disc

That's for a pre-97 8.25. But mine bolted up fine. Lemme know if you have any ?s.
</font>[/QUOTE]Awesome. How much does that all that sh1t cost, if you don't mind me asking? I'm definitely gonna do that sooner or later since I got through drum brakes every couple thousand miles, most of which they don't work at all. Do you have to do anything with proportioning the brakes, or does it balance itself out pretty well? Thanks man
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its been a lot cheaper then i expected. he only hit me up for 10 bucks.
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</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by SheepJeep:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by diesel298:
ill be workin on my On board air.. amkin a tank bracket for thet.. )thinkin of a small tank in front of the fuel tank seems to be alot of wasted space there)
replacing my fawked spring.
some exhause work ( exhaust looks like a wind chime all the loose hangin pipes under there)
some re-wiring of lights.. mabe addin a few more.
i like that oil pan skid i saw on JT earlier so i might make me one of them. (nice design)
bobcats talkin about a lift of sort
i need to make zeede a rear bumper/ tire carrier..and rock sliders.
and tuneman needs a fuel skid......
matt needs his tranny put back in.... as well as some other misc stuff.....
and im sure ill come up with a few more things....
o and i have my 8.8 and gears and all but need to put it all together so theres that too....
so.. not a whole lot goin on
you forgot something [img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]o and some shackles </font>[/QUOTE][img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
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Matt,
Really wish I could but it doesn't look like I am goimng to make it. I have all this work to do on the 2 Jeeps and we have to help finish my buddy's Bronco II so we can hopefully hit Uwharrie the next weekend. Nex time I am home in MA we need to get together and have a beer or 2.
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Really wish I could but it doesn't look like I am goimng to make it. I have all this work to do on the 2 Jeeps and we have to help finish my buddy's Bronco II so we can hopefully hit Uwharrie the next weekend. Nex time I am home in MA we need to get together and have a beer or 2.
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</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Timmay:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by bbaXJ:
Timmay, you should do a write-up on the disc install. I've never seen it done on the 8.25(I think I remember that being what you have) and I'd like to see what parts and stuff you used
Really? It's a fairly common swap. I've only seen one writeup on it. After buying the 96 ZJ brackets, I saw a Libby with discs in the rear, and remembered they had the 8.25 in the rear. I havent seen anyone do the libby swap so I went with the ZJ swap. Im not sure if the bolt pattern is different or net, etc. etc. The ZJ brackets required VERY minor grinding to the larger opening that fits around the axle tube. I also slightly grinded the bolt holes to line up better, it was a pretty tight fit and I didn't want to flatten the threads. I took off under a 1/16" off the bracket to make it fit, very easy and took about 3 minutes with a dremel. A writeup will come soon enough once I get these damn banjo bolts. Expect it saturday night. [img]icon_smile_wink.gif[/img]

That one writeup I used is here:

http://www.akappler.com/document_ser...&doc=rear_disc

That's for a pre-97 8.25. But mine bolted up fine. Lemme know if you have any ?s.
</font>[/QUOTE]Awesome. How much does that all that sh1t cost, if you don't mind me asking? I'm definitely gonna do that sooner or later since I got through drum brakes every couple thousand miles, most of which they don't work at all. Do you have to do anything with proportioning the brakes, or does it balance itself out pretty well? Thanks man
</font>[/QUOTE]Not sure about the prop valve so far, but worse comes to worse I'll swap in a ZJ prop valve. Pulling the O ring in the rear of the XJ's prop valve seems to be a popular idea, but people have said it's done nothing to help them. I figure the ZJ prop valve will be already set up for rear discs, so no worries there.

Cost was a helluva lot cheaper than buying the kit. If I where you i'd hit up a junkyard for the caliper brackets and calipers for cores.

Loaded calipers where : $119 a pop [img]graemlins/icon_banghead.gif[/img] with $50 cores.

Caliper Brackets : $82 a peice even with the guy knocking $30 off each one.

Rotors : $27 each

Parking brake shoes : $22

Parking brake hardware kit : $23
* which didn't include the $13 lever to actuate the parking brake (we got the last two levers on the east cost from a dealer in ghettoville philly.)

Forgetting to buy banjo bolts before everyone closed..... : priceless.

I need to get backing plates from someone doing a ZJ rear axle swap (colin? [img]icon_smile_wink.gif[/img] ) so I can rig up the parking brake. If I cant get anything I think i'll get a mechanical line lock (those miniature calipers...) and run that.

Hopefully that book helped you out [img]crazy3.gif[/img]

EDIT : BTW that may seem really expensive, but people have been getting those caliper brackets and backing plates from the junkyard for like, $15-$20 a side.

That'll save you $120 on the brackets, and $90 on the backing plates.

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That should definitely help. I'm thinkin a line lock would work much better than the drum-in-rotor style e-brake
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hes got part number which would probally help people who dont have time to go to the junkyard.

if you had everything at your finger tips and didnt touch the prop valve, its about a 2-3 hour job.
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Really wish I could but it doesn't look like I am goimng to make it. I have all this work to do on the 2 Jeeps and we have to help finish my buddy's Bronco II so we can hopefully hit Uwharrie the next weekend. Nex time I am home in MA we need to get together and have a beer or 2.
beer.. im there [img]graemlins/rock.gif[/img]
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hey Classic, when you working on the heep? maybe i could check it out, you could teach me a little, maybe bring some beer
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Really wish I could but it doesn't look like I am goimng to make it. I have all this work to do on the 2 Jeeps and we have to help finish my buddy's Bronco II so we can hopefully hit Uwharrie the next weekend. Nex time I am home in MA we need to get together and have a beer or 2.
beer.. im there [img]graemlins/rock.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]you better be!!.. I plan on being home aorund X-mas sometime... hopefully you guys will have some spare time for a couple cold ones

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what header did you end up going with? I am going to try and weld mine and see what happens. </font>[/QUOTE]i will be getting a replacement hedman. i have a hedman now but it cracked.
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Ryan, I guess you aren't coming to Rausch [img]graemlins/iono.gif[/img]
who the fawk told you that?

I'm comin to rausch and driving the XJ there [img]graemlins/evil_grin.gif[/img]

I need some seat time to get used to it anyways [img]icon_smile_wink.gif[/img]
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Matt,
Really wish I could but it doesn't look like I am goimng to make it. I have all this work to do on the 2 Jeeps and we have to help finish my buddy's Bronco II so we can hopefully hit Uwharrie the next weekend. Nex time I am home in MA we need to get together and have a beer or 2.
beer.. im there [img]graemlins/rock.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]you better be!!.. I plan on being home aorund X-mas sometime... hopefully you guys will have some spare time for a couple cold ones </font>[/QUOTE]i think that can be arranged
any word when your movin back this way?
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Ryan, I guess you aren't coming to Rausch [img]graemlins/iono.gif[/img]
who the fawk told you that?

I'm comin to rausch and driving the XJ there [img]graemlins/evil_grin.gif[/img]

I need some seat time to get used to it anyways [img]icon_smile_wink.gif[/img]
</font>[/QUOTE]LOL... I think Matt was talking to me
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Matt,
Really wish I could but it doesn't look like I am goimng to make it. I have all this work to do on the 2 Jeeps and we have to help finish my buddy's Bronco II so we can hopefully hit Uwharrie the next weekend. Nex time I am home in MA we need to get together and have a beer or 2.
beer.. im there [img]graemlins/rock.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]you better be!!.. I plan on being home aorund X-mas sometime... hopefully you guys will have some spare time for a couple cold ones </font>[/QUOTE]i think that can be arranged
any word when your movin back this way?
</font>[/QUOTE]Yeah, Aug 2005.. already started looking for a place and a job.. I can't wait to move back home
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