Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392

[Kurt]

So who is getting one? :D

Jeeps releasing more info tomorrow....Really curious about the pricing on it.

[MBood82]

That might be what I trade in my scat pack on.

[Cobound]

Too buried in Jeeps now :lol:

I’m very interested, and the wife actually said she’d be open to getting a new one herself, until I told her they won’t come in 2 doors :p

Dealers will get them and gouge the prices, and will already be plenty expensive.

[MBood82]

Too buried in Jeeps now :lol:

I’m very interested, and the wife actually said she’d be open to getting a new one herself, until I told her they won’t come in 2 doors :p

Dealers will get them and gouge the prices, and will already be plenty expensive.

I'm not due for a trade in until 2022, so prices should normalize by then. They don't indicate they'll be limited production, which means Jeep will put cash on the hood within a year of the release.

[Blue XJ]

I'm guessing a nicely equipped one will be north of $65k

[6DoF]

the WK is on it's last winter ... for real this time. next fall if there are any still available, you know i'll be looking at them.

[6DoF]

I'm guessing a nicely equipped one will be north of $65k

who wants to bet that the "launch edition" is like $90k

Mel's reaction has been ... "there is no way i'd spend more for a jeep than my 'vette"

[6DoF]

link!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbjdN8sGa5A

[Blue XJ]

My parents reaction is always, that cost more than our house! Granted they bought their house in the 70's, I think everything cost more than what they paid for their house :lol:


You can live in your car, but you can't drive your house

[6DoF]

one comment i saw scroll past in the chat with the reveal was "If this is over $70k, forget it, just buy a TRX". i think i agree with that!

[Jeepin Jason]

I don't really see how the 392 could be much less than $70K. If you equip a regular Rubicon Unlimited with all the options that the 392 will come standard with, not including the 392 of course, or the bead lock wheels or lift kit, you're already looking at a sticker price of basically $60K. So you're starting with a $60K Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon and THEN adding the 6.4L, upgraded wheels, and upgraded suspension. Even at $65K it'd be a steal compared to comparable V6 Rubicon.

[MBood82]

one comment i saw scroll past in the chat with the reveal was "If this is over $70k, forget it, just buy a TRX". i think i agree with that!

It's really two different target audiences, I think they both would have their places. For me, the TRX would be awesome but the Wrangler would be of more use for me, especially since it would fit in the garage. I do think the RAM is more vehicle than the Wrangler however, so them having priced the TRX so low does give them some form of upper window they can aim for. I think they would have to lean on the standard content, since the TRX is pretty stripped at the $72k base price.

The question could be more so how does it compare to the Grand Cherokee with the same motor? That comes pretty loaded and has a base price of $69k. The Grand Cherokee has always occupied, status wise, a higher realm than the Wrangler. Are they going to worry about the Wrangler stealing status?

I don't really see how the 392 could be much less than $70K. If you equip a regular Rubicon Unlimited with all the options that the 392 will come standard with, not including the 392 of course, or the bead lock wheels or lift kit, you're already looking at a sticker price of basically $60K. So you're starting with a $60K Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon and THEN adding the 6.4L, upgraded wheels, and upgraded suspension. Even at $65K it'd be a steal compared to comparable V6 Rubicon.

I'm sure the 392 costs more for Jeep to build than the ****ty 3.6, and the other differences cost pennies when they are building a new Jeep. It's not like when you buy one and then add it on later, throwing away the original parts. They are buying the same amount of springs, the marginal difference in spring rate/length likely costs them no difference. Their real cost is going to be in the re-engineering they did, which if they sell enough will be offset through the volume anyways.

They may feel they have no choice and price it aggressively, you can get a 400ft-lb gas motor in the Bronco for under $37k. At that price point you are stuck with rather gutless motors in comparison at Jeep.

[Cobound]

who wants to bet that the "launch edition" is like $90k

Mel's reaction has been ... "there is no way i'd spend more for a jeep than my 'vette"

:lol: Uhm, you can't take the top and doors off the Vette...AND go offroad :p


My parents reaction is always, that cost more than our house! Granted they bought their house in the 70's, I think everything cost more than what they paid for their house :lol:


You can live in your car, but you can't drive your house

Boom...used to say that all the time about vehicles that had super bling wheels and shiz back in my Corps days wandering around the south. Horrible run down houses w/ super pimped out rides - you can live in your car, you can't drive your house :roflmao:

Oh, when my JKUR was built it cost more than our first house. That said, I didn't build it nor did I spend near that buying it. And couldn't.


one comment i saw scroll past in the chat with the reveal was "If this is over $70k, forget it, just buy a TRX". i think i agree with that!

You can't take the top and doors off the TRX...and you get this in a Gladiator, boom - even badder. Of course, the TRX is super bad ass in it's own right....I just prefer Jeeps.


I don't really see how the 392 could be much less than $70K. If you equip a regular Rubicon Unlimited with all the options that the 392 will come standard with, not including the 392 of course, or the bead lock wheels or lift kit, you're already looking at a sticker price of basically $60K. So you're starting with a $60K Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon and THEN adding the 6.4L, upgraded wheels, and upgraded suspension. Even at $65K it'd be a steal compared to comparable V6 Rubicon.

This is the biggest question to date...what will it cost me....I mean, what will it cost :cotter: :lol:

[xj_man_646]

I think its sweet. I don't think I'll be buying one until they're clapped out or in junk yards but it is still sweet they're bringing the V8 back to the topless and doorless Jeeps.

[nblehm]

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This is the biggest question to date...what will it cost me....I mean, what will it cost :cotter: :lol:

You already have a hemi jeep :squint:

[Cobound]

You already have a hemi jeep :squint:

:roflmao:

[Blue XJ]

:lol: Uhm, you can't take the top and doors off the Vette...AND go offroad :p




You've obviously never watched Roadkill then..... that is (was) a Corvette

https://us1-prod-images.disco-api.com/2020/03/20/1e8889b1-28c4-3dcb-b9fd-ba261e58b666.jpeg

[Cobound]

:lol: Yes, I've seen that...definitely a difference of opinion :roflmao:

[Cobound]

So, ordering banks opened this morning and those I know at dealers are being swamped :lol:

That said, don't think you can order one on Jeep's site, I could not find anything there...and I don't even know if you can get a choice of options or know the price from the dealer, such a cluster.

I can't wait to go drive one tho, if they even let you. Kind of like the SRT8 version of anything, it'll sit on the floor until you pony up the cash.

[Hoofmann]

B boutta order one!

[Cobound]

B boutta order one!

:roflmao:

Nah, in reality, that is way too much money considering I already have one well built. That said, I would prefer one a bit more tame than mine, since I'm not right next door to a mountain, but I'm good...really enjoy my Gladiator. Hard to beat an LE w/ a lifetime warranty...I like all the options.

[nblehm]

You already have a hemi jeep :squint:

Or maybe not :lol: :f2:

[Dennis]

I don't really see how the 392 could be much less than $70K. If you equip a regular Rubicon Unlimited with all the options that the 392 will come standard with, not including the 392 of course, or the bead lock wheels or lift kit, you're already looking at a sticker price of basically $60K. So you're starting with a $60K Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon and THEN adding the 6.4L, upgraded wheels, and upgraded suspension. Even at $65K it'd be a steal compared to comparable V6 Rubicon.I MIGHT be able to get :wifey: to go for it at $65k, beyond that we are in Porsche SUV territory and she would rather have the comfort. Will need a lifetime or at least a 10year/100K warranty though!

I am glad that they did not make it some sort of street package, and that it reflects the true roots of the brand.

[freerider15]

It's cool that they're stepping up and offering one (thanks Ford!), but still kind of a "meh" to me, especially with the price tag.

Plenty of HP wasted on the platform.

[Cobound]

Gonna be more than the TRX :p

https://www.thedrive.com/news/38495/jeep-wrangler-rubicon-392-priced-at-over-70000-more-than-a-ram-trx

[6DoF]

Pricing hasn't been revealed for other equipment options, but considering just two add-ons apparently get the 392 into the $75,000 range, it's definitely possible that $80,000 Jeep Wranglers will be crawling around a strip mall near you very soon. God help us.

:james:

[6DoF]

ya know, i don't blame them considering what ppl pay for hemi swaps currently. best case they sell out and make bank ... worst case they sell some, then lower the price to "normal" and still sell out and make bank. there is no downside to starting high for them that i can see.

[MBood82]

ya know, i don't blame them considering what ppl pay for hemi swaps currently. best case they sell out and make bank ... worst case they sell some, then lower the price to "normal" and still sell out and make bank. there is no downside to starting high for them that i can see.

This is exactly what I anticipate. Price is higher than I originally expected, I was thinking high $60s for the base 392 version, but this makes sense, they'll sell all they can at list or higher at first, then they'll do like the Hellcats and offer major discounts later. Dodge power dollars was a rebate worth $10 for every hp, you could get a nearly $8,000 rebate if you bought the redeye!

I'm not in the market until February 2023 so I got some time to save my pennies and watch the market. I figure either the original V8 swap rigs will drop in price pretty quick (cough cough lowball Cobound) and I can jump on that, or the 392s will hold their value well enough that I can justify buying one, driving it for a few years until I get tired of it and sell it for most of what I have in it because Wranglers just don't depreciate!

[Cobound]

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Pricing hasn't been revealed for other equipment options, but considering just two add-ons apparently get the 392 into the $75,000 range, it's definitely possible that $80,000 Jeep Wranglers will be crawling around a strip mall near you very soon. God help us.

:james:

I laughed at that one, too :lol:


ya know, i don't blame them considering what ppl pay for hemi swaps currently. best case they sell out and make bank ... worst case they sell some, then lower the price to "normal" and still sell out and make bank. there is no downside to starting high for them that i can see.

This was my take as well...plenty of peeps out there dumping $100k on these things already, more will go this route just the same as they don't have to wait and never planned on wheeling or dumping axles in them anyway. Mallcrawl.

They are priced a bit higher than I anticipated, but agree...that said, thought they'd only be slightly higher than the diesel...we'll see what happens.

This is exactly what I anticipate. Price is higher than I originally expected, I was thinking high $60s for the base 392 version, but this makes sense, they'll sell all they can at list or higher at first, then they'll do like the Hellcats and offer major discounts later. Dodge power dollars was a rebate worth $10 for every hp, you could get a nearly $8,000 rebate if you bought the redeye!

I'm not in the market until February 2023 so I got some time to save my pennies and watch the market. I figure either the original V8 swap rigs will drop in price pretty quick (cough cough lowball Cobound) and I can jump on that, or the 392s will hold their value well enough that I can justify buying one, driving it for a few years until I get tired of it and sell it for most of what I have in it because Wranglers just don't depreciate!

:lol: Yeah, the value in mine is truly the 1 tons...Hemi is a nice bonus, half doors, but I'm not expecting to make any money on it should it get sold. Mine is totally niche, not a mall crawler, anyone that were to buy it would want it to wheel, overland, do what it was meant for. Hell, it's overkill and to big for me now, too...if I sold it I'd just turn around and buy another Vette since my JT is set up for all I do now, too...just not going to hardcore w/ it like I did the JK - which was getting more rare - other than my next trip planned for the Rubicon, who knows.

Meh, I'm not looking for another Wrangler, if the JT comes out w/ a Hemi I might lightly consider it...or keep what I have and dump an aftermarket one in since it'd be cheaper than buying and building a new one all over...I'm actually pretty damn happy w/ my 3.6 in my JT that has a lifetime bumper to bumper warranty, it's more peppy than I thought it would be, that 8 speed tranny is da bomb - so I haven't even had the urge to consider one.

So far the JT is not holding the value that a Wrangler does...based on what I've seen in the market. Nothing is cheap these days tho, holy hell.

[MBood82]

:lol: Yeah, the value in mine is truly the 1 tons...Hemi is a nice bonus, half doors, but I'm not expecting to make any money on it should it get sold. Mine is totally niche, not a mall crawler, anyone that were to buy it would want it to wheel, overland, do what it was meant for. Hell, it's overkill and to big for me now, too...if I sold it I'd just turn around and buy another Vette since my JT is set up for all I do now, too...just not going to hardcore w/ it like I did the JK - which was getting more rare - other than my next trip planned for the Rubicon, who knows.

Yeah, it will take the right buyer for yours in particular. Nobody wants that thing.

I'll give you three dollars and a cookie when you are ready!


Meh, I'm not looking for another Wrangler, if the JT comes out w/ a Hemi I might lightly consider it...or keep what I have and dump an aftermarket one in since it'd be cheaper than buying and building a new one all over...I'm actually pretty damn happy w/ my 3.6 in my JT that has a lifetime bumper to bumper warranty, it's more peppy than I thought it would be, that 8 speed tranny is da bomb - so I haven't even had the urge to consider one.

So far the JT is not holding the value that a Wrangler does...based on what I've seen in the market. Nothing is cheap these days tho, holy hell.

So the value play is a lightly used, well equipped JT and swap the motor into that? This could work for me, I'd rather have the manual transmission anyways.

[Cobound]

So the value play is a lightly used, well equipped JT and swap the motor into that? This could work for me, I'd rather have the manual transmission anyways.

Buddy of mine has a JT w/ a 5.7 and a 6 speed....built by Dakota Customs. He's planning the Rubicon w/ us this fall, may even run out to EJS w/ me this spring.

Oh, and this:

Jeep® Brand Announces Launch Edition Pricing for Well-equipped 2021 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392 - the Quickest, Most Powerful Wrangler Yet (https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/jeep-brand-announces-launch-edition-pricing-for-well-equipped-2021-jeep-wrangler-rubicon-392---the-quickest-most-powerful-wrangler-yet-301234809.html?fbclid=IwAR19gp3XqhfVXMVWzaxiY4n7mD w1QmTDSEuN1UTFhB-EjcnOuzRUrM8TN9g)

They forgot....MOST EXPENSIVE FACTORY WRANGLER YET :lol:

$75k before taxes or options...

[6DoF]

70k for a TRX
75k for a 392 JL
35-55k for a JL + 58K for a hellcat swap

for literally 12K more than the JL hellcat swap you can have the same engine/trans but get an entire desert prepped RAM with it. "turnkey"

[Cobound]

Crazy...I can't fathom spending that out the door on a factory vehicle...dayum!

[MBood82]

Buddy of mine has a JT w/ a 5.7 and a 6 speed....built by Dakota Customs. He's planning the Rubicon w/ us this fall, may even run out to EJS w/ me this spring.

How much was the conversion to the 5.7? That seems like a smarter way to play it at this point.

Oh, and this:

Jeep® Brand Announces Launch Edition Pricing for Well-equipped 2021 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392 - the Quickest, Most Powerful Wrangler Yet (https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/jeep-brand-announces-launch-edition-pricing-for-well-equipped-2021-jeep-wrangler-rubicon-392---the-quickest-most-powerful-wrangler-yet-301234809.html?fbclid=IwAR19gp3XqhfVXMVWzaxiY4n7mD w1QmTDSEuN1UTFhB-EjcnOuzRUrM8TN9g)

They forgot....MOST EXPENSIVE FACTORY WRANGLER YET :lol:

$75k before taxes or options...

^Because that is nucking futs.

[Cobound]

Not sure what he paid, didn't ask...he purchased it done, not a conversion. The owner of the company had it, has mutual connections, he buys and sells Jeeps more than I go through them :lol:

Yes, absolutely nuts!

[MBood82]

Not sure what he paid, didn't ask...he purchased it done, not a conversion. The owner of the company had it, has mutual connections, he buys and sells Jeeps more than I go through them :lol:



I just checked the price...10k+ without the motor. The motors are expensive for a good Hemi, this seems expensive...