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Old 01-12-2009, 07:53 PM   #1
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This is the build thread for the trailer discussed here:

http://jeepin.net/forum/showthread.php?p=935528

Specs are as follows:

Tandem 6,000lb axles
26' deck, 4' dovetail
96" wide
Weighs in at 3500ish lbs with all the steel decking on it.
It has diamond plate on the sides, 20" wide, as well as the dovetail.

What needs to be accomplished:

Weld on driver's side and dovetail diamond plate
Buy and install some 6" pipe down the center of the cross members (referred to as a torque tube)
Deck middle section with 2x8s
Lights - Tons of them
Wire up brakes, replace rear axle drums
Weld on D rings every 5 feet
Possible axle relocation and/or cut out 2' of frame in front of the axles
Clean and paint

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This thing is fun to work on. I wish that piece of **** camper wasn't in my way.





I used my 50' generator leads running off the Square Wave to play with some 7018. I just tacked this one piece in, didn't have much time today.





Lots left..



The center crossmembers are designed for 2x* wood decking. The boards slide right under the main framerails.



The fun part is parking this thing out back. If I chop 2' out of the middle it'll be possible. If I leave it long, i'm going to be forced to store it at my buddy's place down the street. Not a huge deal once it's finished, but a pain while i'm working on it.

I have to back through here, then turn the corner out back.





You can see how it hits the fence just barely. Maybe I can knock that thing down and noone will notice.



Hopefully progress will be fairly quick. I need to get that torque tube pipe asap.

Oh yea, to help me work faster I got all my tools organized in my new box. What an awesome feeling.

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When are you hauling that b1tch out to the Badlands?
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Not till after I graduate. Money is getting tight, and I need this built to move in May.

Anyone need a cage?
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You building TJ rocker guards yet?
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Holy bling toolbox. That's what I need.....you get a decent deal on it?
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are you gonna buy a winch for the trailer?
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i'd have no problem paying you to cage up my TJ, unless you count the 2800 mile commute as a problem, obviously a minor one!
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definitely a great, inexpensive place to start, but if those are actually 6k axles (I've only heard of 7 & 10k's being used under most goosenecks) then your gonna be really pushing the limits with two rigs on there, depending on the rigs. You might want to look into an axle swap (geez, now were swapping axles in our freakin trailers!) to a 10K set and go tandem dually. 7k axles would be adequate, but if your gonna swap then do it right, eh? After extinsive towing with my trailer i think the 7k axles under it are only adequate, certainly not ideal, and thats with good michelin trailer tires on it. My trailer weighs 4800lbs, which is a couple hundred pounds more than most ( and worth every pound of extra stiffness) and with two "average" rock rigs and gear I am looking at the maximum load for the trailer with about 3k of that over the rear axle of the truck, which seems to handle well. The point is that it would suck to have a great big trailer like that and be constantly wearing out bearings and blowing out tires due to overloading. The trailer itself looks pretty good albeit the axles are pushed a little to far back and the gooseneck brace looks pretty small, but the axles are IMHO entirely too small for that size deck. Take this for what you want as it won't be behind my Cummins, but probably worth some thought.
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You building TJ rocker guards yet?
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~$1k shipped. I paid half, the other half was an xmas present.

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are you gonna buy a winch for the trailer?
Not yet. My hi-lift works fine for the minimal times I would need it.

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i'd have no problem paying you to cage up my TJ, unless you count the 2800 mile commute as a problem, obviously a minor one!
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definitely a great, inexpensive place to start, but if those are actually 6k axles (I've only heard of 7 & 10k's being used under most goosenecks) then your gonna be really pushing the limits with two rigs on there, depending on the rigs. You might want to look into an axle swap (geez, now were swapping axles in our freakin trailers!) to a 10K set and go tandem dually. 7k axles would be adequate, but if your gonna swap then do it right, eh? After extinsive towing with my trailer i think the 7k axles under it are only adequate, certainly not ideal, and thats with good michelin trailer tires on it. My trailer weighs 4800lbs, which is a couple hundred pounds more than most ( and worth every pound of extra stiffness) and with two "average" rock rigs and gear I am looking at the maximum load for the trailer with about 3k of that over the rear axle of the truck, which seems to handle well. The point is that it would suck to have a great big trailer like that and be constantly wearing out bearings and blowing out tires due to overloading. The trailer itself looks pretty good albeit the axles are pushed a little to far back and the gooseneck brace looks pretty small, but the axles are IMHO entirely too small for that size deck. Take this for what you want as it won't be behind my Cummins, but probably worth some thought.
Yep, i'm already looking at 7k axles to replace these. Seems like it'll be a small investment over replacing the brakes on both axles. Tandem duals are ruled out due to the fact that it would put me in CDL territory.
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What are you doing about ramps? Will the dovetail be low enough to just drive up with the XJ or will you be going with fold down or deattachable ramps?
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That a Snap On box? Steal at $1K if it is.
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Well, part of one, and I won't let you work on my junk for free.

Trailer looks cool. Needs the axle brought in like you said...which would also help with the turning radius.

Definitely put bigger axles under it. Mine's rated for 10k and I'm cool with that on a bumper pull...you can definitely (and probably will need to) go larger. Trailer **** looks cheap after building a rig.
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thats not a snap on box
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What are you doing about ramps? Will the dovetail be low enough to just drive up with the XJ or will you be going with fold down or deattachable ramps?
There's pockets for slide in ramps in the rear. The previous owner kept them for his other trailer. I'll build new ones once everything else is taken care of. The dovetail is low enough that the XJ can crawl right up, but I don't know about anything with less than 37s on it. I'm cool with that since I won't be dragging the tail everywhere I go.

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International. That price is new, shipped. Really impressed with it. I like using the drawers as ladders.

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Well, part of one, and I won't let you work on my junk for free.

Trailer looks cool. Needs the axle brought in like you said...which would also help with the turning radius.

Definitely put bigger axles under it. Mine's rated for 10k and I'm cool with that on a bumper pull...you can definitely (and probably will need to) go larger. Trailer **** looks cheap after building a rig.
I'm going to toss these axles up on craigslist and see what happens. To be honost, I probably won't buy 7k axles until after I graduate, unless these sell. I just can't afford that right now. If it keeps me from pulling with two rigs on the trailer for 6 months, i'm cool with that. Fukk everyone else, I just need to get my own rig places.

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Sounds like he should donate it.
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He will donate, in return for a cash donation.
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I've never heard of this torque tube you speak of. Can you explain it some? Just there to help the overall stiffness or what?
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I imagine it has to do with the torsional stiffness a decent sized tube would offer. Run a piece of pipe (larger the diameter the better) the length of the trailer, attached at the front and back and presumably in the middle at every cross bracing as well. That tube will help prevent the trailer from twisting and racking alot better, which I imagine becomes important when the trailer is so long.

Having never heard of a torque tube before, am I anywhere close to being right?
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Depends if you want to ship it or not.
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ya know what there may be a way to work something out down the line.. we're house hunting right now, but after im in there an situated ill drop you a line and maybe we set something up, who knows if you do a cross country wheeling expedition deal liek going to hammers, ill only be about 1 hr from there
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I imagine it has to do with the torsional stiffness a decent sized tube would offer. Run a piece of pipe (larger the diameter the better) the length of the trailer, attached at the front and back and presumably in the middle at every cross bracing as well. That tube will help prevent the trailer from twisting and racking alot better, which I imagine becomes important when the trailer is so long.

Having never heard of a torque tube before, am I anywhere close to being right?
Yes, that basically covers it. James needs one too.
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Yes, that basically covers it. James needs one too.


My trailer isn't the first I've seen that has a bit of twist to it. I don't care...I'm trying to sell it.
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My trailer isn't the first I've seen that has a bit of twist to it. I don't care...I'm trying to sell it.
Your trailer has more flex than your Jeep dude.
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I imagine it has to do with the torsional stiffness a decent sized tube would offer. Run a piece of pipe (larger the diameter the better) the length of the trailer, attached at the front and back and presumably in the middle at every cross bracing as well. That tube will help prevent the trailer from twisting and racking alot better, which I imagine becomes important when the trailer is so long.

Having never heard of a torque tube before, am I anywhere close to being right?
Precisely. I'm thinking about cutting sections of tube and welding them into the faces of the I beam. It'll be theoretically less stiff than a continuous tube, but should offer the same benefits. It's going to be a PITA to cut perfect circles out of the beams after they are already in place.

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ya know what there may be a way to work something out down the line.. we're house hunting right now, but after im in there an situated ill drop you a line and maybe we set something up, who knows if you do a cross country wheeling expedition deal liek going to hammers, ill only be about 1 hr from there
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My trailer isn't the first I've seen that has a bit of twist to it. I don't care...I'm trying to sell it.
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Tandem duals are ruled out due to the fact that it would put me in CDL territory.
CDLs are governed by the trailer rating where you are??

If so then that sucks, here its load rated, so you can just about tow any trailer you want as long as the total load (vehicle and trailer combined) is under 26,000lbs.
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If so then that sucks, here its load rated, so you can just about tow any trailer you want as long as the total load (vehicle and trailer combined) is under 26,000lbs.
So you can drive a semi tractor with trailer without a CDL as long as it weighs in at under 26k? Awesome.

I'm 90% sure that the CDLs around her are by registered rating. In theory I could register a tandem dual as 7k/axle and be fine, but that's not really smart I don't think. However, it's not like i'll ever have over 14k on the trailer...
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Precisely. I'm thinking about cutting sections of tube and welding them into the faces of the I beam. It'll be theoretically less stiff than a continuous tube, but should offer the same benefits. It's going to be a PITA to cut perfect circles out of the beams after they are already in place.
That is one thing I was really curious about. Wasn't sure if you'd bother to cut out circles in the crossmembers or not...that seems like a huge pain.
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So you can drive a semi tractor with trailer without a CDL as long as it weighs in at under 26k? Awesome.
air brakes would kill that. Not sure on the actual cdl law though
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:41 PM   #31
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air brakes would kill that. Not sure on the actual cdl law though


Its all about the GVWR in WI. Anything with a combined GVWR (truck + trailer) of over 26000 requires a CDL.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:21 PM   #32
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So you can drive a semi tractor with trailer without a CDL as long as it weighs in at under 26k? Awesome.

I'm 90% sure that the CDLs around her are by registered rating. In theory I could register a tandem dual as 7k/axle and be fine, but that's not really smart I don't think. However, it's not like i'll ever have over 14k on the trailer...
I have over 14k on mine everytime i put two rigs and gear on it, but with tongue weight its not all on the rear axles. Obviously I can't go out and run around in empty big rigs (which would still be over 26k) for many reasons, however, the DMV didn't even bat an eye when we registered our 20k goosneck so its got to be legit here atleast.
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if the combo is under 26k and it doesnt have air brakes your good to go.



I wouldn`t want dual tandems though, me and a buddy split one and the back 4 always wore alot faster then the front 4.
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I have over 14k on mine everytime i put two rigs and gear on it, but with tongue weight its not all on the rear axles. Obviously I can't go out and run around in empty big rigs (which would still be over 26k) for many reasons, however, the DMV didn't even bat an eye when we registered our 20k goosneck so its got to be legit here atleast.
That is because your truck isn't rated high enough to push your GVWR over 26k. At least that is how it works in WI (like I stated before). IIRC you have a 2500 CTD correct? GVWR around 9k if I am not mistaken, which would mean you'd need 17k on the trailer to put you in to CDL territory for the rules I know of.

My dad's 3500 dually CTD has a GVWR of 11k, even with that truck you're still good to go with a 14k trailer.
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Enough with the CDL bullsh1t. I've read too much about it on pirate.
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